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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by cthia   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:12 am

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Couldn't find any detailed info regarding the Fleet Games which was a yearly competition designed to exercise Home Fleet. I imagine it is a clash of the Crushers. At any rate, I wonder if the Fleet Games usually coincide with graduation to also vet the newbies. I imagine that some officers have been a part of the Fleet Games on more than one occasion other than Home Fleet.

It'd be nice if the other appendages of the GA - RMN and GSN - sent units to participate in the yearly Fleet Games.

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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Fox2!   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:28 am

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robert132 wrote:
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That's why they call it a "dream sheet." You dream, your career manager sends you where he wants to. If they match, buy a bunch of lottery tickets.


LOL!!! That's exactly what a lot of us thought before I retired from the USN, though we called the "Career Manager" for our rating (Job Specialty) the Detailer.



Did Ginger ever participate in any of Honor's simulations aboard Wayfarer? I don't recall.[/quote]

The "Career Manager" was the Air Force term of art when I wore the blue ("They took the blue from the skies, and a pretty girl's eyes, and a touch of Old Glory, too, and gave it to the men who proudly wear the U. S. Air Force Blue They proudly wear the Blue! The U. S. Air Force Blue!"*)

Ginger was a newly promoted SCPO (way out of zone, to make up for Wayfarer's manning deficiencies) in, IIRC, impellers. She went Mustang sometime after that tour. Ginger was a Commander, IIRC, serving as Hexapuma's Engineering Officer during the Monica affair. She must have been promoted to Captain (JG) after the Yawata Strike.

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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Fox2!   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:47 am

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The E wrote:What's a DL?


"DL" was the type designation for US Frigates before the Great Cruiser Conversion. Depending on whom you ask, DL stood for either "Destroyer Leader" or "Destroyer, Large." Just as Alaska (BC) and her sisters were "Big Cruisers", not "Battle Cruisers."

When NATO had a frigate convention, the European countries sent 2500-5000 ton vessels. The US sent Bainbridge or Truxton. When the Perry class came along, existing DLGs were redesignated as Cruisers (CG/CGN), and Perry was declared to be a frigate (FFG), more in keeping with her Allied contemporaries.
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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Robert_A_Woodward   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:06 am

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Fox2! wrote:
robert132 wrote:

Did Ginger ever participate in any of Honor's simulations aboard Wayfarer? I don't recall.



Ginger was a newly promoted SCPO (way out of zone, to make up for Wayfarer's manning deficiencies) in, IIRC, impellers. She went Mustang sometime after that tour. Ginger was a Commander, IIRC, serving as Hexapuma's Engineering Officer during the Monica affair. She must have been promoted to Captain (JG) after the Yawata Strike.


She was promoted to Captain J.G when she was transferred to Weyland, see the first sentence of chapter 5 of _Mission of Honor_ (Weyland's evacuation drill started in chapter 27 of _MoH_).
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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Weird Harold   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:36 am

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cthia wrote:Viewing Henke's and Honor's wiki profile, and assuming the wiki informant is sober this time, why does it list Henke as receiving the promotion to Ensign in 1879 PD and Honor in 1878? I think it was because of some incident in one of the side stories that made Harrington go noticed? I remember a palate, a careless driver and an accident and Honor taking charge? ...


The reason for Honor's early promotion is detailed in "Ms Midshipwoman Harrington" in the first Honorverse anthology.

IIRC, the palatte and careless driver was Abigail Hearnes in "Service of The Sword" in the anthology of the same name.
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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by cthia   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:36 am

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cthia wrote:Courses at Saganami Island - metonym for Royal Manticoran Naval Academy.





It sure would be nice to have storyline provide us with some of the exploits of Commandant Hartley.


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Honor must have flown her plane mighty darn low at the Academy regatta when she buzzed Hartley to cause him to dive off of his sloop into the water. What was that gal thinking? She had a little Top Gun in her even back then didn't she?

This was also a thing in Top Gun with Maverick constantly buzzing the tower. Is this a thing in the United States Navy Strike Fighter Tactics Instructor program?

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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by John Prigent   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:05 am

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Am I misremembering? I thought Honor had TAUGHT the Advanced Tactical Course in one book.

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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Dauntless   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:14 am

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Honor was in charge of ATC during her convalesce after returning from Hades
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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by George J. Smith   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:41 am

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cthia wrote:
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Viewing Henke's and Honor's wiki profile, and assuming the wiki informant is sober this time, why does it list Henke as receiving the promotion to Ensign in 1879 PD and Honor in 1878? I think it was because of some incident in one of the side stories that made Harrington go noticed? I remember a palate, a careless driver and an accident and Honor taking charge? My memory. That isn't much of a difference, I know. I'd just think they'd both be promoted to Ensign about the same time.

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In the side story Ms Midshipwoman Harrington, Honor was promoted by Cpt Bacfish(sp) midway through her snotty cruise due to her saving the ship from being destroyed by a privateer.

That would explain the time difference in the dates of promotion.
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Re: THE C R U S H E R
Post by Fox2!   » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:32 am

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George J. Smith wrote:snip...



In the side story Ms Midshipwoman Harrington, Honor was promoted by Cpt Bacfish(sp) midway through her snotty cruise due to her saving the ship from being destroyed by a privateer.

That would explain the time difference in the dates of promotion.



Plus Michelle was notoriously touchy about any perception of favoritism towards her in assignments and protmotion. Consider the discussion (counseling session?) between Mike and Honor when Mike accuses Honor of favoritism for getting her assigned to command BATCRURON 81, and the squadrion being assigned as Part of 8th Fleet's battle cruiser component.
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