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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Armed Neo-Bob   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 6:43 pm

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heh--they used cs gas during a training exercise at Ft Carson, back in 1986 or '87--wind shifted and the MPs and state troopers had to go out and close the highway until it blew off. No fatal accidents for that bit of genius, thank goodness.

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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Jonathan_S   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 7:37 pm

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BrigadeΔ wrote:It is odd, as far as I know we have not seen any Honorverse tanks, I imagine that they would be like Golems from Bolo, IE a gigantic countergrav supertank with a set of cruiser rang grazers and a lot of armor, not the all up Bolo though i can fantasize about one of those in Cauldron of Ghosts, though it would be utterly unfait to the other side, that is the POINT of starting a war though right?

There have been a few passing mentions in the novels and anthologies (which I'm not going to try to run down right now), but virtually no real details.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by SWM   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:39 pm

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BrigadeΔ wrote:It is odd, as far as I know we have not seen any Honorverse tanks, I imagine that they would be like Golems from Bolo, IE a gigantic countergrav supertank with a set of cruiser rang grazers and a lot of armor, not the all up Bolo though i can fantasize about one of those in Cauldron of Ghosts, though it would be utterly unfait to the other side, that is the POINT of starting a war though right?

Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

The reason we haven't seen more tanks is because in an interstellar war, once you control the high orbitals, you control the planet. There have been hardly any instances where tanks would have been useful and available (for instance, they would never have had tanks on Medusa).
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by kzt   » Wed Dec 03, 2014 8:52 pm

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SWM wrote:Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

Which is pretty clearly the worst story in any of the anthologies.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Theemile   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:46 am

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SWM wrote:
BrigadeΔ wrote:It is odd, as far as I know we have not seen any Honorverse tanks, I imagine that they would be like Golems from Bolo, IE a gigantic countergrav supertank with a set of cruiser rang grazers and a lot of armor, not the all up Bolo though i can fantasize about one of those in Cauldron of Ghosts, though it would be utterly unfait to the other side, that is the POINT of starting a war though right?

Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

The reason we haven't seen more tanks is because in an interstellar war, once you control the high orbitals, you control the planet. There have been hardly any instances where tanks would have been useful and available (for instance, they would never have had tanks on Medusa).

There were Havenite tanks in the State Sec compound on Hades, and light tanks on verge worlds in Storm from the Shaddows.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Theemile   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:48 am

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kzt wrote:
SWM wrote:Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

Which is pretty clearly the worst story in any of the anthologies.


I always thought it felt like a generic scifi Short story modded just enought to be in the Honorverse.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by crewdude48   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 5:10 am

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kzt wrote:
SWM wrote:Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

Which is pretty clearly the worst story in any of the anthologies.


I would argue A Grand Tour gets that title, but only by a hair. I personally don't even consider AGT as canon.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Armed Neo-Bob   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 2:02 pm

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SWM wrote:Tanks are used in the short story Deck Load Strike, in the anthology Worlds of Honor.

kzt wrote:Which is pretty clearly the worst story in any of the anthologies.


crewdude48 wrote:I would argue A Grand Tour gets that title, but only by a hair. I personally don't even consider AGT as canon.



Neither of those read much like Weber. I never think about that last one much--but the OFS goons are pretty much on target, and I think it is one of the few instances of the People's Navy Auxillary Fleet, or whatever it was called, and their tendency towards atrocities.

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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by saber964   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:52 pm

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In House of Steel there is mention of the M11A2 MBT with a 120mm plasma gun with a pulsar cannon secondary weapon it is the main MBT of the RMA.
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Re: Battle armor and misc stuff about land forces
Post by Draken   » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:32 pm

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saber964 wrote:In House of Steel there is mention of the M11A2 MBT with a 120mm plasma gun with a pulsar cannon secondary weapon it is the main MBT of the RMA.

That's pretty heavy armament for tank.
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