Crew Complement by class range?

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

I think they have plenty of ships for marine deployment, and don't need these converted ships.

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

I think it has already been done on an ad-hoc basis. When Terekhov left Spindle to visit Mobius in Shadow of Freedom, he was given a CLAC that not only carried its LAC wing, but was specifically mentioned by Admiral Gold Peak to "have plenty life-support to carry a battalion or so of Marines, as well. That should give you a ground combat component if you need one. I'm hoping you won't, but better safe than sorry."

Vince wrote:

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

I think it has already been done on an ad-hoc basis. When Terekhov left Spindle to visit Mobius in Shadow of Freedom, he was given a CLAC that not only carried its LAC wing, but was specifically mentioned by Admiral Gold Peak to "have plenty life-support to carry a battalion or so of Marines, as well. That should give you a ground combat component if you need one. I'm hoping you won't, but better safe than sorry."

That's not a conversion--that's simply the already-existing capability of the design. That's one of the categories of transport I was including when I said they already had plenty of marine transport available and don't need conversions.

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

The "old" Minotaur....which was first commissioned in PD 1912 (per House of Steel) and is only 10 years old....things change rapidly these days in the Honorverse... .

For the record, according to HoS, 18 "Minnies" were commissioned, along with 6 that were purchased by Grayson and commissioned in 1914. The Hydras' (94+ prior to1st Manticore) and the Covingtons (30+) came around in 1914-1915, so they are only 7-8 years old.

Sorry, just feeling as old as Khumalo's Hercules today...press on.

Hutch wrote:

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

The "old" Minotaur....which was first commissioned in PD 1912 (per House of Steel) and is only 10 years old....things change rapidly these days in the Honorverse... .

For the record, according to HoS, 18 "Minnies" were commissioned, along with 6 that were purchased by Grayson and commissioned in 1914. The Hydras' (94+ prior to1st Manticore) and the Covingtons (30+) came around in 1914-1915, so they are only 7-8 years old.

Sorry, just feeling as old as Khumalo's Hercules today...press on.

But didn't you know? I have begun a subscription campaign around the Talbott Quadrant to support the Hercules being completely overhauled to modern standards, with upgraded fire control and Mk 16 capable launchers. It will be the first proof-of-concept project at the new 'Renaissance' Yards. <grin>

Then they will start on the Medusa II class Apollo SD(P) "Canada"...er...I mean "Talbott".

dreamrider

This may be my ignorance showing, but is there any reason to believe HMS Minotaur isn't still in Fleet service as a CLAC?

Dafmeister wrote:This may be my ignorance showing, but is there any reason to believe HMS Minotaur isn't still in Fleet service as a CLAC?

IIRC, I've never come across anything that specifically said it was scrapped, mothballed or destroyed in combat.

Vince wrote:

dreamrider wrote:Hmm - just had the thought.

Couldn't older CLACs be converted pretty easily to a Fleet Marine Force ship able to hold easily with a deployed TF? I mean I know there is probably a dedicated battle transport in the works, and the Kammerling cruisers, but a few on-hand, quick-convert, regimental- lift haulers wouldn't hurt the posture, especially now.

It would be nice to see the old Minotaur again.

dreamrider

I think it has already been done on an ad-hoc basis. When Terekhov left Spindle to visit Mobius in Shadow of Freedom, he was given a CLAC that not only carried its LAC wing, but was specifically mentioned by Admiral Gold Peak to "have plenty life-support to carry a battalion or so of Marines, as well. That should give you a ground combat component if you need one. I'm hoping you won't, but better safe than sorry."

Terekov's Task Group was carring 2 battalions, 1 batt abord the CLAC and each of his CA's carried a company which equals a battalion.

dreamrider wrote:
But didn't you know? I have begun a subscription campaign around the Talbott Quadrant to support the Hercules being completely overhauled to modern standards, with upgraded fire control and Mk 16 capable launchers. It will be the first proof-of-concept project at the new 'Renaissance' Yards. <grin>

Then they will start on the Medusa II class Apollo SD(P) "Canada"...er...I mean "Talbott".

dreamrider

Silesia not Talbott.

Vince wrote:

Dafmeister wrote:This may be my ignorance showing, but is there any reason to believe HMS Minotaur isn't still in Fleet service as a CLAC?

IIRC, I've never come across anything that specifically said it was scrapped, mothballed or destroyed in combat.

I mean, its original LAC wing was mostly destroyed in combat (because sacrificing LACs to take out battleships is obviously a good idea), but Minnie itself presumably just got a new LAC wing. The differences between the Minotaur-class and the Hydra class are not all that major, certainly not enough to retire the Minotaurs any time soon.