UC: TUFT capacities

saber964 wrote:Steam powered torpedoes are not charged with ate from the firing platform. They used alcohol-oxygen to heat water at extremely high pressure to feed a steam turbine.

Sorry, but KZT already gave that answer:

kzt wrote: steam torpedoes don’t store steam. They store compressed air (or oxygen for the IJN) and produce steam as fuel and water are injected into the gas heading for the turbine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torpedo#Wet-heater

saber964 wrote:

Theemile wrote:
SLN missiles are still Plasma Capacitor missiles, like KZT said. Before the microfusion reactors, all missiles used plasma capacitors for power. Capacitor missiles took on plasma in the magazines of a ship before they are fired. ( They can also be drained, so many missiles are spun up before use). In RMN and RHN service, tractors could also beam energy (perhaps a second emittor was used) to power the systems in pods and fill up the plasma capacitors before podnaughts were on the scene

Think of capacitor missiles like steam torpedos. You need a source of live steam or a pressurized flask of steam to fill the internal flask of the torpedo, so the torpedo can operate. The flask cannot sit for lengthy periods or it loses pressure as the steam cools.

So their has to be some mechanism to spin up the pods with plasma for use - and it needs to be done "soon" before use.

Steam powered torpedoes are not charged with ate from the firing platform. They used alcohol-oxygen to heat water at extremely high pressure to feed a steam turbine.

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Yes, I remembered real steam torpedos wrong. But my description of Honorverse plasma capacitor missiles is correct and the anology of Honorverse Plasma and live steam is as close as you can get.

Nice remembering that Technodyne has been building things for (or at the request of) the Alignment for a long time and that brings up the probable need for the GA to make a fast visit to Yilden and a really good look at what they have been up to and who for.

It appears that Technodyne had been building the Cataphracts and while claimed (and probably has some level of documentation for the development) they and the upgrades are Alignment work. They certainly produced enough of them. We haven't seen much of SLN developed equipment, almost everything has been not only from 3rd parties (design and build) the timing of this stuff has already been called into question by at least Fillerta.

Sure, Honor specifically invested the Ganymede base with RMN personel if not GA in general after warning Kingsford not to have his people destory records, computers and materials. She wanted everything the SLN had or was working on including specifically all that Technodyne equipment, data, prototypes and systems. Now the GA needs to go to the soures of much of this stuff and look at the data and everything else.
Is that legal.....well, depends. At this point the GA can certainly have (if not already) the ability to direct the SLN to "require" Technodyne to make all of the records etc avaliable to the GA including site inspections on new construction or repairs plus munitions and weapons in production and housed for delivery.
Will Technodyne comply? After all, they are a Transtellar and not part of the SLN or the SL plus they have a lot of clients who are either Star Nations or other Transtellars. But, presuming that not everything Technodyne was destroyed in the Final Flourish on Mesa and give what was done with Monica and what was provided in vast numberes of new generation missiles to the SLN, there is a clear trail that it was at least comming through Technodyne if not conceived elcewhere and only built at Yelden etc.

It is - at the moment- probably unlikely tht there are any SpiderDrive warships hanging around Yilden as that could lead to way too many problems of discovery. It is possible that Technodyne has the eqivelent of an SDF at Yelden though it hasn't been mentioned. They design, manufacture, equip and arm hyper-capable warships so they can certainly have build their own little (or not so little) Navy. I would also guess that they have a reasonably big reclamation operation beyond their own astroid mining and fabrication operations. Why? Because all those BCs that were given to Monica were ships that were taken by Technodyne to be decommissioned and you can imagine that the contracts for that probably included the recycling of the eqipment and hulls as part of payment on new ships and equipment for SLN.

The question becomes: do we find out in a later book that the GA at least visited the best known (to us through the books) hyper-capable warship and commercial builder plus weapons supplier to the SLN and what did they find? Also what did the GA take away and did Technodyne attempt armed resistance and it's results.

--snipping--

Galactic Sapper wrote:I'm assuming the lack of wormhole access is severely limiting the ability for the SLN to share designs and tactics across the massive distances involved. What we're seeing is some intentional design information being shared (Cataphracts and pods, mostly) but tactics and even ad hoc equipment being created by the local establishment. It would take even a dispatch boat months to get across the Solarian League and the war is happening faster than their internal communications can handle.

(And as an aside, the time limit given for SLN ships to vacate fringe systems was poorly thought out, given that transit times even using wormholes meant most systems could not even receive word they were supposed to vacate before they were in violation of the surrender conditions and subject to summary 'sploding. Take the wormholes out of the picture and some ships would be in violation for the better part of a year before they got word.)

Agreement on the second paragraph, although there ought to be more than enough dispatch boats remaining to get the word out, because, those aren't warships. Anyway, to the point of my snipping, which relates to the first paragraph.

As far as we can tell, the first round of Buccaneer task forces were dispatched at approximately the same time, and presumably with orders orignating from Sol and upon receiving whatever shipments from Technodyne. Keep in mind that if all of the Buccaneer task groups have TUFTs, the speed with which the SLN forces could reach whatever Buccaneer targets would be limited by the speed of the freighters in hyper. Hadju Gyozo had a conversation with the sector governor (last name Floyd) responsible for the attempt to force the Zunker wormhole, and the Mandarins are aware of that f--- up, plus both the RMN forces in Hypatia and Lessum's tac officers noted that the Cataphract missiles were coming in hot (faster than expected), etc., which leads me to assume that they should have equivalent missile systems aboard the freighters. If anything Hypatia should have been a place MORE likely to have the Huskies, yes?

SharkHunter wrote:As far as we can tell, the first round of Buccaneer task forces were dispatched at approximately the same time, and presumably with orders orignating from Sol and upon receiving whatever shipments from Technodyne. Keep in mind that if all of the Buccaneer task groups have TUFTs, the speed with which the SLN forces could reach whatever Buccaneer targets would be limited by the speed of the freighters in hyper. Hadju Gyozo had a conversation with the sector governor (last name Floyd) responsible for the attempt to force the Zunker wormhole, and the Mandarins are aware of that f--- up, plus both the RMN forces in Hypatia and Lessum's tac officers noted that the Cataphract missiles were coming in hot (faster than expected), etc., which leads me to assume that they should have equivalent missile systems aboard the freighters. If anything Hypatia should have been a place MORE likely to have the Huskies, yes?

Presumably, assuming the timing of the Hypatia force was the same as the rest of Buccaneer's forces. It wasn't planned as part of the main op so it may have left a bit earlier. I don't remember if that was ever specified.

Or perhaps they only had so many Huskies to go around and other forces got them first. :shrug:

Galactic Sapper wrote:Presumably, assuming the timing of the Hypatia force was the same as the rest of Buccaneer's forces. It wasn't planned as part of the main op so it may have left a bit earlier. I don't remember if that was ever specified.

Or perhaps they only had so many Huskies to go around and other forces got them first. :shrug:

Hajdu was going elsewhere and was redirected to Hypatia. So he probably set out with the same tactical doctrine and weapons, but he did receive an update with his orders.