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Re: Cupid
Post by roseandheather   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:10 am

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bunyipbelle wrote:
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Does this mean that treecat colonies will spring up on Haven?

I think that was the point after Yawata strike, wasn't it, that the treecats saw the danger in having all their eggs in one basket?

Just hope that Haven and Manticore remain allies in the future or what would that do to the treecat colonies on opposing planets?

And the plot thickens!


I think that treecat colonies will spring up in Haven space. Treecats saw the danger even before the Yawata strike.
In the story Changer of Worlds Samantha and Nimitz visit Nimitz's clan. During that visit Samantha talks to the elders and memory singers of Bright Water Clan about the danger. She tells them that she and Nimitz have decided to raise their treekittens off world. They invite other treecats to come with them. The treecats set up a colony on Grayson at Harrington steading with Honor's help.


I completely agree. We know that at least twenty treecats are moving to Nouveau Paris to work with the Republic and the Cabinet, but I wouldn't at all be surprised if a few 'settlers' went along too. I just wish we had a short story about them!! :D
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Re: Cupid
Post by cthia   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:22 am

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About those treecats on Grayson.

Treecats like living in the wild. But most of Grayson is dangerous. How does that work exactly?

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Re: Cupid
Post by Dafmeister   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:28 am

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cthia wrote:About those treecats on Grayson.

Treecats like living in the wild. But most of Grayson is dangerous. How does that work exactly?


They'd probably find it very hard to live in an old-style Grayson steading, but with the advent of the domes it's easy to keep large open spaces like parks free of contamination. Plenty of room to run, jump, climb and terrorise the local wildlife.
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Re: Cupid
Post by cthia   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:40 am

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Dafmeister wrote:
cthia wrote:About those treecats on Grayson.

Treecats like living in the wild. But most of Grayson is dangerous. How does that work exactly?


They'd probably find it very hard to live in an old-style Grayson steading, but with the advent of the domes it's easy to keep large open spaces like parks free of contamination. Plenty of room to run, jump, climb and terrorise the local wildlife.


It still just does not work for me. Perhaps I fail to realize the size of the domes. But in my mind's eye I can't perceive of a park large enough to hold and sustain an advanced treecat clan.

Advanced by a few generations. It seems the treecats would over hunt the local fauna. New fauna from the outside just can't be introduced because their diet would have consisted of poisoned sources. And someone had better plant some frickin' celery!

Then as more time elapses they'll be other clans and eventually territorial disputes!

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Re: Cupid
Post by Werrf   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:43 am

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It was mentioned early on that treecats on Grayson are going to be a different breed, ones more comfortable with living in close proximity to humans. I doubt we will ever see a 'wild' treecat clan on Grayson, the way they live on Sphinx - instead, we're going to see 'cats living intertwined with humans, living as part of human households, eating farmed food and probably holding down jobs among human society.

ETA: And 'wild' is probably the wrong word - we don't call hunter-gatherer societies on earth 'wild', after all, and treecats are not exactly being domesticated or tamed by humans. 'Independent' vs 'integrated' may be better terms.
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Re: Cupid
Post by SWM   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:18 am

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HoS notes that all treecats on Grayson live in Harrington Dome, except for those bonded to people who live elsewhere. We know that Harrington Dome has a large park, with a Sphinxian habitat. But as others have pointed out, they aren't trying to live in the trees on Grayson. They are living with humans.
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Re: Cupid
Post by cthia   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:43 am

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Werrf wrote:It was mentioned early on that treecats on Grayson are going to be a different breed, ones more comfortable with living in close proximity to humans. I doubt we will ever see a 'wild' treecat clan on Grayson, the way they live on Sphinx - instead, we're going to see 'cats living intertwined with humans, living as part of human households, eating farmed food and probably holding down jobs among human society.

ETA: And 'wild' is probably the wrong word - we don't call hunter-gatherer societies on earth 'wild', after all, and treecats are not exactly being domesticated or tamed by humans. 'Independent' vs 'integrated' may be better terms.


Not probably the wrong word.

Is the wrong word. Do forgive me.

Tester, please do not let me mimick the close-minded Manticoran unintelligents!

Thanks for setting me straight.
I actually meant 'living in the wild.'

But evenso, my thoughts wander to a Nimitz on that first visit to Mount Royal Palace, or a subsequent one, where he leaped from the shoulder of Honor and terrrorized a chipmunk just to keep his hunting skills sharpened.

This promises to be a new breed of treecat for certain, but I wonder if the treecats aren't giving up too much.

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Re: Cupid
Post by jchilds   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:55 am

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Dafmeister wrote:
cthia wrote:About those treecats on Grayson.

Treecats like living in the wild. But most of Grayson is dangerous. How does that work exactly?


They'd probably find it very hard to live in an old-style Grayson steading, but with the advent of the domes it's easy to keep large open spaces like parks free of contamination. Plenty of room to run, jump, climb and terrorise the local wildlife.


I suspect if it came down to it, Honor could use Sky Domes to build one or more domes specifically as range sized treecat habitats in her steading and establish a forestry rangers section of the Harrington Guard to "manage"/protect it. There are advantages to being an obscenely wealthy autocrat, after all. ;)
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Re: Cupid
Post by cthia   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 12:51 pm

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jchilds wrote:
I suspect if it came down to it, Honor could use Sky Domes to build one or more domes specifically as range sized treecat habitats in her steading and establish a forestry rangers section of the Harrington Guard to "manage"/protect it. There are advantages to being an obscenely wealthy autocrat, after all. ;)


Now that idea I like, alot!

I mean, you wouldn't place lots of fish in a small fish bowl!

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Re: Cupid
Post by PeterZ   » Mon Feb 24, 2014 1:09 pm

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jchilds wrote:
I suspect if it came down to it, Honor could use Sky Domes to build one or more domes specifically as range sized treecat habitats in her steading and establish a forestry rangers section of the Harrington Guard to "manage"/protect it. There are advantages to being an obscenely wealthy autocrat, after all. ;)


You make it sound like the idea is a money sink. Such a park would undoubtedly make money. Charge admission for people who wish to walk through and enjoy designated areas. The treecats can engage or not as they see fit. Heck, there might even be designated areas where treecats and humans can do actual business. In any case, there are revenue opportunities enough to pay for the dome.
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