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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by Sharp Claw   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:46 am

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[quote="Eagleeye"
WHEN IS BAEN GOING TO RELEASE THE 1ST HALF OF "SHADOW OF VICTORY", WHICH I HAVE ALREADY PAID FOR, AND IS NOW PUSHING TWO WEEKS LATE, FROM THE ANNOUNCED RELEASE DATE?

The book has been turned in by RFC. Isn't it about time for Baen to put some thing up about the release date, other than "Delayed"?[/quote]

The page now says:
**Ebook coming soon.**

^_^[/quote]

It says that for nearly the same time as it said it is delayed. But the elfes at Baen had only 3 working days to work with the final manuscript, and to put 300,000 words, parted in probably 50+ chapters, in the different formats for the eARC may take some time; don't you think? Especially the making of the html-files could be time-consuming - after all, you have to divide the whole text in its single chapters, put everyone of them through the html-making process, check each chapter for obvious errors, correct these errors and link the chapters together for the html-version you want to publish.

But nonetheless, I hope, too, that we see the eARC on Monday ...[/quote]

Yeah, Monday, maybe. God forbid they should work late nights or weekends like other Americans.
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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by Peregrinator   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:13 am

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Sharp Claw wrote:Yeah, Monday, maybe. God forbid they should work late nights or weekends like other Americans.

I would much rather see Baen's editorial gremlins spending their nights and weekends with family and friends than working overtime to produce an eARC for the convenience of a few readers (including myself).
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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by clancy688   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:32 am

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Sharp Claw wrote:Yeah, Monday, maybe. God forbid they should work late nights or weekends like other Americans.


I'm from Germany. Over here we're taking things like overwork rather serious. There are draconic punishments incoming for CEOs who even allow their people to work overtime:

- If your contract specifically states that Monday-Friday are your working days you need to be notified early if you are supposed to work on Saturdays - a couple of days is not enough
- You are not allowed AT ALL to work more than ten hours a day
- You have to take a break after six hours
- You're not allowed AT ALL to work on Sundays

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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by jchilds   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:00 am

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I'll only point out that if eARCS and monthly bundles end up becoming a net negative for Baen because a bunch of people are excessively vocal in their complaints, Bad Things(tm) may happen.
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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:45 am

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Vince wrote:
cthia wrote:You don't have to tell me about the vulnerability of the "paper cuts" versions. One of my brothers was playing with sparklers and the ignoramus (my sister called him that LOL) lit one in his library. All was fine. Then he let a 1-yr-old neighbor's daughter hold one in her hand while he lit it with his (she quickly became afraid (they light so quickly that way and she wasn't quite prepared, already being nervous) while holding it and threw it in the air. It got lodged in the fire sensors and initiated the sprinkler system which did over 3 grand of damage to his library. Oops.

This is the information age. I am a staunch supporter of it. I love e-books. I just want my first read of my favorite authors to be replete with paper cuts and the rustling of pages. Especially in the winter snuggled by a crackling fireplace on the sofa. Although my fireplace doesn't crackle like my parents' did - gas powered.

I currently only purchase 128GB sd cards and thumb drives. I have thousands of ebooks on that card too, as well as the complete 50GB English version of Wikipedia, 5GB Wiktionary, wikibooks, etc., etc., etc. Casual research can be effected anywhere now.

Current digital technologies make a trip to the doctors' office an enjoyment. I'm actually a bit sad sometimes when they call for me while sitting in the waiting room, for that annual checkup.

That's another reason I don't like E-readers, they have an external memory card storage limit - if they even accept external microsd cards. Most do not accept an external card of 128GB. Most are limited to 32GB, at least they were.

Perhaps external storage capacity has improved. But E-readers would have to be able to handle ALL of my reading needs. Wikipedia, and Java capability is a must.

For long term storage, don't use flash media (SSDs, SD cards, USB flash (thumb) drives for unpowered, offline backup storage, or even regularly accessed storage. The electron charges will slowly discharge over time (the more bits you store in an individual cell, the less margin for error you have when you attempt to read it, meaning the smaller the flash drive/card and the higher the capacity, the faster the electron charge dissipates), rendering the data on the media either corrupt or unreadable over time. When an SSD flash drive* is powered on, it will occasionally read and rewrite the data as part of its behind the scene housekeeping, restoring the charge in the cells.

* By SSD flash drive, I mean one that is connected to a personal computer using a SATA (serial ATA) or later bus (and the PC is regularly powered on). USB flash drives (not USB hard disk drives), and SD flash memory cards+ do not have this automatic rewrite capability, it has to be done manually by the user.

A flash drive manufacturer on USB - How long will data stay valid for on a USB drive ?

+ I think of Honorverse data chips that are physically handed from person to person to transfer information as these.

By definition, any complete Wikipedia download is out of date the second you start the download. By the time you finish the download, it's even more out of date.

Absolutely Vince! In fact, I wish Microsoft would license this post from you. Obviously, they are too busy to include something like this along with their "BACKUP" software. "Windows Backup" allows you to make a complete system image of your PC and store it on an external media for later reinstallation in times of emergency. So many of my friends, colleagues and casual acquaintances ask me (resident nerd) "Why does the Microsoft Backup/Recovery program not allow me to save my backup system image to my huge flash drive/sd card?"

After all, I do understand their reasoning because the numbers work. For instance, they may have a 64GB tablet and that 64GB houses their current Windows 10 OS, all of their installed programs and all user data - documents, photos, movies, etc., ...

"My expensive 128GB microsd card (or thumb drive) is twice the capacity of my system. So please tell me, Microsoft, why I can't backup my 64GB system to my 128GB flash media!!!"

Well, denizens of Earth, Vince's post is why! It isn't that it can't be done, but that it shan't be done - because it should not. Which is why they won't allow it. They're protecting the idiot in us. Afterall, it is supposed to be a backup. And by the very nature of the technology, it is dying a slow death as soon as it's made. And by the very nature of when it will be needed — perhaps a long time in the future, makes it worse. A more traditional hard drive should be used for backup — one that actually has moving parts.

"Oh you mean one of the old-fashioned hard drives?"

"No, it isn't old-fashioned yet. Traditional hard drives have remained the backup media since their inception. They are labeled as true backup devices for a reason and they haven't yet been superseded by any other technology. They're still the "It Girl."

Again, just too bad that Microsoft doesn't try to educate in this regard when people try to pull it off anyways, instead of the cryptic "Backup to this media is not allowed," or whatever the current cryptic version is. Because people can sometimes spend days or more trying to accomplish something that they can't do no matter what they may try because they think it is just a matter of them doing something wrong.

Nevertheless, knowing these facts going in makes things much easier as long as you eat a bit of caviat along with your caviar. Personally, I look at flash drives as throwaway devices. Disposables. We are in the age of throw away electronics like razors.

If I may add to your post Vince. It's perfectly fine to use flash media as long term storage devices. 10 years or more carrying around my book collection and the very practical wikipedia is pretty long term enough. It just isn't practical for backup. In fact, the operative word which cannot be stressed enough is BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP! And not just any old BACKUP regimen will do, but PROPER BACKUP i.e., the correct media. Which Vince has just explained.

If you are in the habit of effecting proper backup, then "Alls well, that ends well." My aforementioned 128GB microsd card that houses the full 50GB English version of Wikipedia, 5GB Wiktionary and my thousands of ebooks rarely changes. Except when I add a new book or if I decide to upgrade Wikipedia. So this file has been backed up on the proper media which is less than 100GB - which can now be easily reinstated without hair loss.

Now, if I may be allowed to follow your lead and get a bit technical. The average person is not going to babysit their flash media and reformat&repopulate (how some geeks refer to it) in a timely fashion. I do! Yet my OS of choice is LINUX which has built-in utilities which accomplishes it for you. You can even choose the frequency of these unattended special type of (maintenance) backups. As of late, the capability is included in "some" wear leveling sofware as an addition. So, I always make sure that my flash media has been watered properly like garden flowers.

As for "wear leveling." Another even more serious limitation with flash media is its limitations on the "write" cycle. Theoretically, there is no limit on the number of reads. But there is a limitation on the number of writes. This limitation, depending on how the media is used, may be reached long before the 10 yr "normal" life of the media. It is important to employ a proper wear leveling system. It is a bit tricky with SSD's so read up. Again, LINUX has the capability built-in.
http://us.apacer.com/business/technology/wear-leveling

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This is why I purchased several cases of the IBM/Hitachi microdrives. Foresight. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microdrive

They are invulnerable to this problem. I love my babies. In fact, they've proven to be invulnerable themselves. I purchased several cases of 8GB drives in 2006. I've only used two of 'em thus far and they are still going strong. I've intentionally tried to crash one. It just won't break. It has survived my dog having it in his mouth, a skateboard accident, and it is still carrying the Olympic torch. They are workhorses without the limitations of flash media.

Anothet word about backup. Laziness and inconvenience has been the main stumbling block preventing common habitual worldwide backup regimens. Backup oftentimes had to be effected by actually connecting an external device to your machine in the case of laptops, which are more prevalent now. It is inconvenient to have to sometimes disconnect a physical device currently in use because it is occupying the only existing port, to temporarily connect your backup device to effect the latest backup. This requirement affords too much opportunity for laziness to creep in. And it always does.

Enter the latest in Wifi backup afforded by some of the recent technology drives. This was the last piece of insignificant tech that brought the convenience to the necessary computer backup requirement full circle — made it whole, complete. There really is NO excuse now. Seemless, practical no muss and no fuss user scheduled backups.

So, Earthlings, get your backup on! Courtesy of the occupants of the Roswell crash.

P.S.

Vince, many people are quick to point this out. My friends as well.
By definition, any complete Wikipedia download is out of date the second you start the download. By the time you finish the download, it's even more out of date.

Nevertheless, for convenient research it remains indispensable to me. The information that I need in Wikipedia doesn't change. Physics equations, proofs, formulas, etc. For less version specific data, preliminary research can be effected offline while inside a "radio-free" cabin in the woods, then rechecked later.

Besides, "The Encyclopedia Britannica" publishing method was far more out of date by press time, yet we all somehow still managed didn't we?

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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by Vince   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:37 pm

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cthia, all modern (not the very first ones, but 2nd generation or later) flash drives (of any type) incorporate wear leveling in the drive's firmware--not the operating system driver (it's part of the abstraction to present to the OS the fiction it's a drive with heads, cylinders and sectors). So you don't have to worry about burning out a particular 'sector' of the flash by continually writing to that 'same' 'sector', the firmware actually writes it to a different 'sector' and updates its internal address table.

But when a flash drive with wear leveling does start burning out 'sectors', the drive is about to die, because at that point the drive has used up all the write capability of the flash memory chips. If you ever encounter this, stop writing to the drive, copy all the information off of it, and then dispose of the flash drive--it's dead.
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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 12:49 pm

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Vince wrote:cthia, all modern (not the very first ones, but 2nd generation or later) flash drives (of any type) incorporate wear leveling in the drive's firmware--not the operating system driver (it's part of the abstraction to present to the OS the fiction it's a drive with heads, cylinders and sectors). So you don't have to worry about burning out a particular 'sector' of the flash by continually writing to that 'same' 'sector', the firmware actually writes it to a different 'sector' and updates its internal address table.

But when a flash drive with wear leveling does start burning out 'sectors', the drive is about to die, because at that point the drive has used up all the write capability of the flash memory chips. If you ever encounter this, stop writing to the drive, copy all the information off of it, and then dispose of the flash drive--it's dead.

Yes, it is included in "most" firmware now. However, be advised that wear leveling schemes are NOT created equal. And, applied to an SSD causes problems. It is why I included the link. And is also why Linux' utilities are included separately, and they are more robust and SSD friendly/specific.

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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by cthia   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:10 pm

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Addendum:

For all you tech savvy folk. It is possible to make a Windows system image and back it up to flash media. You can just employ Linux to do so. Linux will allow you to do just about anything you WANT to do - not questioning you, it assumes that you know what the hell you are doing. Linux follows the "Mine is not to reason why, but to do or die" adage.

Or you can just copy the image to flash media after the fact in the Windows environment.

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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by fallsfromtrees   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:00 pm

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I'm firmly in the ebook category, simply because of space considerations. My wife and I are among those people who "gave the books their own room, and now they wantl the whole house." The master bedroom in the house is actualy a library (with real stacks), the books are double stacked on the shelves, and the wall of the living room also has about two hundred shelf feet of books. It has gotten to the point that the rule now is "You can only bring a paper book into this house if you dispose of two paper books currently in the house." All that has done in stop the increase.
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Re: Shadow of Victory missing from the monthly bundle
Post by Rincewind   » Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:48 pm

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dwmdw45 wrote:Have there been any significant changes to any of the Honorverse books between eARC and final version? My impression is that no, the only changes are editorial.

I ask because there are several books which I've read only in the eARC version, and I'm starting to wonder why you'd want to read the final version when you already have the eARC.


Actually, in A Call to Duty there was one (minor) difference.

In both the eARC & the hardback there were no illustrations but in the EBook there were; specifically diagrams of several ships featured in the story.

I know when I discovered it I was the teensyist bit irritated.
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