A question about the destruction of Admiral Filareta

Torlek wrote:

Theemile wrote:Within reason. Steer an aircar into the wall, yes. Write a 3 page suicide note..... er... no.

Yes and we are talking about a single shot in the head here.

For comparison when they tried to assassinate Honor and Ambassador Whathisname the sprayed gunfire far and wide.

It appears that the nannites activate "muscle memory" - so anything someone has done over an over again is suspect (like punching in the "standard" passcode someone uses) as is simple movements.

In that light, target shooting is considered a prime example of programming muscle memory - site target, aim, fire. - repeat. People who are trained don't even "think" about what theyare doing. So if someone was proficient with firearms, that muscle memory could be triggered to act on said head.

Now if the individual has not so much as played Duck Hunt on their Nintendo Classic Bi-Millenium edition, it probably will not work, the muscle memory already has to be there for the nanites to activate it.

Theemile wrote:
It appears that the nannites activate "muscle memory" - so anything someone has done over an over again is suspect (like punching in the "standard" passcode someone uses) as is simple movements.

In that light, target shooting is considered a prime example of programming muscle memory - site target, aim, fire. - repeat. People who are trained don't even "think" about what theyare doing. So if someone was proficient with firearms, that muscle memory could be triggered to act on said head.

Now if the individual has not so much as played Duck Hunt on their Nintendo Classic Bi-Millenium edition, it probably will not work, the muscle memory already has to be there for the nanites to activate it.

What needs to be trained is the muscle memory of the person, who is programming the nanos not the muscle memory of the nano assassin.
The problem with a single targeted shot, is not the movement but the exact position of the target relative to the shoot (also the position of the sidearm), which would have to been know months in advance. Since it is impossible to know that for certain, program the assassin to spray the room.

Torlek wrote:

Theemile wrote:
It appears that the nannites activate "muscle memory" - so anything someone has done over an over again is suspect (like punching in the "standard" passcode someone uses) as is simple movements.

In that light, target shooting is considered a prime example of programming muscle memory - site target, aim, fire. - repeat. People who are trained don't even "think" about what theyare doing. So if someone was proficient with firearms, that muscle memory could be triggered to act on said head.

Now if the individual has not so much as played Duck Hunt on their Nintendo Classic Bi-Millenium edition, it probably will not work, the muscle memory already has to be there for the nanites to activate it.

What needs to be trained is the muscle memory of the person, who is programming the nanos not the muscle memory of the nano assassin.
The problem with a single targeted shot, is not the movement but the exact position of the target relative to the shoot (also the position of the sidearm), which would have to been know months in advance. Since it is impossible to know that for certain, program the assassin to spray the room.

But don't forget - Sollie Flag bridges are a standardized place with a standard spot for the shock cage of the admiral (and everyone else) - best of all - the Fleet 2000 program included plenty of tri D high def videos of the new bridge layouts for the admiring public to know where their (not-quite) tax dollars go.

If you know who is doing the shooting, you know where to point.

Or your head is always in the same spot relative to your arm. Raise and point your gun at your head, turn your head away from the gun and shoot. That simple. Right into the back of the skull.

Don

n7axw wrote:Or your head is always in the same spot relative to your arm. Raise and point your gun at your head, turn your head away from the gun and shoot. That simple. Right into the back of the skull.

Don

Right. The assassin was Sandra Crandall, the person she assassinated was Sandra Crandall, the assassin was dead at the end of the assassination - where's the problem. There is clear textev that Crandall was not to survive the attack on Spindle.

n7axw wrote:Or your head is always in the same spot relative to your arm. Raise and point your gun at your head, turn your head away from the gun and shoot. That simple. Right into the back of the skull.

Don

To risky. What do you do if she had forgotten her gun that day. The safer option would have been to force her to kill herself, with her skinsuits pain meds.

If you want a more detailed argument on that matter read my post 2 pages further back.

Torlek wrote:

n7axw wrote:Or your head is always in the same spot relative to your arm. Raise and point your gun at your head, turn your head away from the gun and shoot. That simple. Right into the back of the skull.

Don

To risky. What do you do if she had forgotten her gun that day. The safer option would have been to force her to kill herself, with her skinsuits pain meds.

If you want a more detailed argument on that matter read my post 2 pages further back.

Your argument has a certain plausibility. The counters would be as follows-

The person who set up the nanites could have researched her habits and known that Crandall would have her gun in that context. This is depending on strong probability and not completely air tight.

Crandall was the person they had access to and thus opportunity the fashion the nanites for.

Using the Skinsuit pain killers could have required a set of combinations or passwords known only to Crandall to prevent anyone else from doing what you describe. For this to work, those would have needed to be available to the programer.

No one else on the bridge have been penetrated and corrupted by the Alignment and thus are not available as tools for the job.

The programer wished to create confusion about "whodunit" and thus wanted the possibility she was fragged to be open, casting suspicion on the bridge crew.

Don

n7axw wrote:Your argument has a certain plausibility. The counters would be as follows-

The person who set up the nanites could have researched her habits and known that Crandall would have her gun in that context. This is depending on strong probability and not completely air tight.

Crandall was the person they had access to and thus opportunity the fashion the nanites for.

Using the Skinsuit pain killers could have required a set of combinations or passwords known only to Crandall to prevent anyone else from doing what you describe. For this to work, those would have needed to be available to the programer.

No one else on the bridge have been penetrated and corrupted by the Alignment and thus are not available as tools for the job.

The programer wished to create confusion about "whodunit" and thus wanted the possibility she was fragged to be open, casting suspicion on the bridge crew.

Don

A combination of passwords you need to operate a device you need in a stressful emergency situation sounds like a really bad idea. People have a problem to remember 911 when they need it. Also personally if I am injured and in a lot of pain, I would be thankful, if somebody else can give me something for the pain.
Of course the "suicide option" might be more secured. But hacking a skinsuit seems well within the capabilities of the MA.

Torlek wrote:

n7axw wrote:Your argument has a certain plausibility. The counters would be as follows-

The person who set up the nanites could have researched her habits and known that Crandall would have her gun in that context. This is depending on strong probability and not completely air tight.

Crandall was the person they had access to and thus opportunity the fashion the nanites for.

Using the Skinsuit pain killers could have required a set of combinations or passwords known only to Crandall to prevent anyone else from doing what you describe. For this to work, those would have needed to be available to the programer.

No one else on the bridge have been penetrated and corrupted by the Alignment and thus are not available as tools for the job.

The programer wished to create confusion about "whodunit" and thus wanted the possibility she was fragged to be open, casting suspicion on the bridge crew.

Don

A combination of passwords you need to operate a device you need in a stressful emergency situation sounds like a really bad idea. People have a problem to remember 911 when they need it. Also personally if I am injured and in a lot of pain, I would be thankful, if somebody else can give me something for the pain.
Of course the "suicide option" might be more secured. But hacking a skinsuit seems well within the capabilities of the MA.

When you've got a hammer, things tend to look like nails. The MAlign has a secret and undetectable assassination method; they would tend to use it in preference to other methods when they want to make sure that people won't suspect an assassination and ask who has a motive.

JohnRoth wrote:When you've got a hammer, things tend to look like nails. The MAlign has a secret and undetectable assassination method; they would tend to use it in preference to other methods when they want to make sure that people won't suspect an assassination and ask who has a motive.

The Alignment is not relying solely on the nano-virus to eliminate problems. They are also using sabotage and non-programmed agents. Filareta's bridge was sabotaged by an agent. So sabotaging a suit does not violate the pattern.