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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by George J. Smith   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:22 pm

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pappilon wrote:
George J. Smith wrote:Given that Gensonne stated that knowledge is power and shared knowledge diminishes such power, is it likely he would have that information on what amounts to the computer in the reception office of his base?


No, certainly not. IIRC, however, when Manticore and The Andermani attacked the Volsung base, they made complete copies of the computers aboard the station. Pobably in a very heavily encrypted file.



My mistake, I assumed it was the computer from the office the dogs were guarding. I should have wrote the reception office of his place on the planet. (IIRC that's where the dynamic duo found out where the base was located.)
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by Hornblower   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:24 pm

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pappilon wrote:
George J. Smith wrote:Given that Gensonne stated that knowledge is power and shared knowledge diminishes such power, is it likely he would have that information on what amounts to the computer in the reception office of his base?


No, certainly not. IIRC, however, when Manticore and The Andermani attacked the Volsung base, they made complete copies of the computers aboard the station. Pobably in a very heavily encrypted file.


The files were encrypted with several layers of encryption. At the end of Call to Vengeance Mantocore was still working on this (Anton Z. was not yet born :lol: )
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by pappilon   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:28 pm

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Hornblower wrote:The files were encrypted with several layers of encryption. At the end of Call to Vengeance Mantocore was still working on this (Anton Z. was not yet born :lol: )


Well tell them to get busy, Manticore really needs his skills. I mean jeesh.
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by Weird Harold   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:57 pm

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Hornblower wrote:(Anton Z. was not yet born :lol: )


And Sir Horace Harkness probably was just learning to hack computers. :roll: :P
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by n7axw   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:33 pm

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We don't know that the info is in the computer, but if it is, the reason for doing so would be to see to it that knowledge of Axelrod's role would be preserved for someone to dicover should Gensonne suffer a mischief. He has suffered a mischief at Llyn's hands, of course. One of Llyn's reasons for sending the black ops team was to either destroy or take possession of the computer and assure that Axelrods role is not discovered.

Unfortunately from Llyn's perspective, Casey and the Andermani got there first.

So, we'll see...

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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by Brigade XO   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 5:32 pm

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Manticore and the Andermani end up with the computer dump from at least the Volsung base and whatever was pulled from the Volsung ships and shared by the Andermani with Manticore.

Manticore also gets whatever was shared with it by Haven in the run-up too and after the destruction of Gensonne fleet.

They have a lot of information, from two signifcant Volsung locations (the stolen computer and the orbital base) plus shared info from two seperate star nations. Not clear if the Andermani are talking much with Haven. Are they sharing old and new info about the Volsung, probably not.

So Manticore has lots of data, has to work through it and they have the information they got from the Volsung ships destroyed at the Battle at Manticore and what they could get electronicaly etc on the Llyn incursion that was to be the occupation of Manticore. Travis and Chomps are really good about both getting down to the actual information through the inscription and they have time. How long did it take them to -after stealing it and apparently getting away unidentified- to break the incription and dig out the location of the Volsung base? Now these two and other people will be drilling into multiple other datasets and comparing notes. Who, what, where, where, why? Names, code-names, locations, logistic needs and acquisitions, contacts, agents, payments (from where, how, by whom)...the list goes on and on. Manticore is seriously motivated to get to the bottom of this. They probably have more raw data and more point of things to compare than either the Andermani or Haven at this point because they came by it from two differnt operations by two differnt ships working with to differnt sets of at least temporary partners in taking out the Volsung organization. So who hires the Volsung and when and what were the ship movements and on and on and on.
It's analysis and puzzle solving. They are really sure their lives and the survival of the Kingdom depends on it. They want to stop this before they have to have a third confrontation, this one another battle, in the Manticore System. Lets to kill them somewhere elce before the come back at us......seems like a plan along with building up the RMN to be frgging dangerous to poke.
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by n7axw   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:49 pm

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Brigade XO wrote:Manticore and the Andermani end up with the computer dump from at least the Volsung base and whatever was pulled from the Volsung ships and shared by the Andermani with Manticore.

Manticore also gets whatever was shared with it by Haven in the run-up too and after the destruction of Gensonne fleet.

They have a lot of information, from two signifcant Volsung locations (the stolen computer and the orbital base) plus shared info from two seperate star nations. Not clear if the Andermani are talking much with Haven. Are they sharing old and new info about the Volsung, probably not.

So Manticore has lots of data, has to work through it and they have the information they got from the Volsung ships destroyed at the Battle at Manticore and what they could get electronicaly etc on the Llyn incursion that was to be the occupation of Manticore. Travis and Chomps are really good about both getting down to the actual information through the inscription and they have time. How long did it take them to -after stealing it and apparently getting away unidentified- to break the incription and dig out the location of the Volsung base? Now these two and other people will be drilling into multiple other datasets and comparing notes. Who, what, where, where, why? Names, code-names, locations, logistic needs and acquisitions, contacts, agents, payments (from where, how, by whom)...the list goes on and on. Manticore is seriously motivated to get to the bottom of this. They probably have more raw data and more point of things to compare than either the Andermani or Haven at this point because they came by it from two differnt operations by two differnt ships working with to differnt sets of at least temporary partners in taking out the Volsung organization. So who hires the Volsung and when and what were the ship movements and on and on and on.
It's analysis and puzzle solving. They are really sure their lives and the survival of the Kingdom depends on it. They want to stop this before they have to have a third confrontation, this one another battle, in the Manticore System. Lets to kill them somewhere elce before the come back at us......seems like a plan along with building up the RMN to be frgging dangerous to poke.


I doubt that the Andermani and Haven talk a lot. They are pretty far removed. But I could see the Andermani sending a embassy/intelligence mission to Haven to determine what happened to try to determine if Genesonne is really dead.

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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by pappilon   » Sun Mar 25, 2018 2:14 pm

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n7axw wrote:
I doubt that the Andermani and Haven talk a lot. They are pretty far removed. But I could see the Andermani sending a embassy/intelligence mission to Haven to determine what happened to try to determine if Genesonne is really dead.

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Gustav doesn't seem to do much talking with ... anybody. At least not until a flotilla of hisships come popping back into N-space 35 LS shy of your hyper limit.

Of course, Manticore has a shiny new Foreign Secretary possessing a fair amount of ambition.
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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by n7axw   » Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:49 pm

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pappilon wrote:
n7axw wrote:
I doubt that the Andermani and Haven talk a lot. They are pretty far removed. But I could see the Andermani sending a embassy/intelligence mission to Haven to determine what happened to try to determine if Genesonne is really dead.

Don

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Gustav doesn't seem to do much talking with ... anybody. At least not until a flotilla of hisships come popping back into N-space 35 LS shy of your hyper limit.

Of course, Manticore has a shiny new Foreign Secretary possessing a fair amount of ambition.


He seems to talk to and maintain good relationships with the League... at least to the point where he can update his fleet with League tech.

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Re: Call to Vengeance Ramblings SPOILERS
Post by n7axw   » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:00 pm

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Manticore's also made off with the Volsungs' office computer on Telmach (where Chomps and Travis encountered the dogs). So they managed to get their hands on the info from the computer on the base and the one from the office.

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