Thanks very much for the quick response, RFC.
Of course, a reaction to an irritant like my previous post is to be expected.
I'm sorry you're ticked but not surprised, and I'm still curious why the TSVW appendix etc couldn't have been integrated into the Bu9 project, since it seems so straight forward; why did it have to be disregarded?.
I was more than willing to help when HoS was first suggested, as were other fans here; while the RHN and IAN ring my chimes far less than the RMN mainly because there's much less to dig into, I hope contributions or the insights by posters here might be considered for HoS2.
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runsforcelery wrote:**quote="lyonheart"**Hi Duckk,
Its always great to hear from you.
I understand the concern over the Great Resizing, and I took that as a given.
My problems stemmed mainly from the conflicts with the textev, especially the TSVW appendix, where the number of ships, their size, and total tonnage indicating class averages etc, were totally ignored for stuff seemingly made up on the spot.
Just check it and compare, please.
Why are the RMN Ad Astra DN's, which are only 3.57% bigger than the average peep BB and far lass than the last 4.5 NT BB's kept in service until 1913 when there is so much textev about BB's being too small for the wall etc, or the fact that the 1904 Fleet strength comparison chart states the RMN only had 121 DN's not the 144 of HoS?
There are tons of errors that are excruciating.
Hopefully HoS2 will be better, but I'm not holding my breath.
I've realized from the beginning that its too late to argue, but it grates so much when it should have been quite simple to factor the appendix and early textev in.
L**quote**Duckk wrote:I assure you we went through many rounds of reviews to try and be as accurate as possible. While some things slipped through, I think you're putting far to big an onus on us for making things follow every jot and letter of early canon, especially since you know that quite a bit of it was written under faulty assumptions (such as the density problem which led to The Great Resizing).
Lyonheart ---
When you are prepared to go through and spend as much time and effort as the Bu9 guys did on creating/recreating the "historical" navy by wading through 20 years worth of books and attempting to reconcile all the minor continuity errors which have crept in over the last 20 decades you may be in a position to cast aspersions on their efforts. At the moment, you are not.
The appendix from the SVW was, indeed, modified. If that offends you, I apologize. The effort that was expended in designing every single class of every navy for you and the other readers was prodigious. The effort to make sure that all named ships from the books were included and that hull numbers --- which I assigned without taking meticulous notes about how many ships were in each class or ship type --- was likewise prodigious. Most authors do not make a note every single time they name a ship or assign a hull number, especially not in a series stretching to 20-plus years and close to 20 mainstream novels plus short fiction. When the time comes to put a navy together for an official, canon listing, however, little things like repeat numbers or numbers which imply smaller classes --- or larger ones --- have to be reconciled. That is precisely what we attempted to do here.
Were there some typos that slipped by? Yes, there were. Was this Bu9's first effort at something this ambitious? Yes, it was. Did I have the opportunity to proofread every word of it and did I miss some of the errors, I certainly did.
I've done the best I could to maintain continuity over the life of the series and, by and large, I think I've done a fair job of it. When the time comes to put together the definitive guide to the entire literary universe, however, some pieces of it need to be filed and sanded to fit. Personally, I think they did a damned good job, and I don't know anyone who could have done a better one.