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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by WLBjork   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:54 am

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Well, if you want to use a Mk16G to take out a LAC, be my guest.

Personally, I'd rather shoot it with a less resource intense Viper myself...
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:28 am

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WLBjork wrote:Well, if you want to use a Mk16G to take out a LAC, be my guest.

Personally, I'd rather shoot it with a less resource intense Viper myself...


That would depend on what I had available. If I'm commanding an SD(P) I'm going to use an Apollo Pod to take out any LACs that get it the way, 'cause that's what I've got in the magazines.

If I'm commanding anything other than a Katana or other new-style LAC loaded with Vipers, I'm going to use whatever happens to be loaded in the magazines.
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Whitecold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 8:57 am

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Weird Harold wrote:
WLBjork wrote:Well, if you want to use a Mk16G to take out a LAC, be my guest.

Personally, I'd rather shoot it with a less resource intense Viper myself...


That would depend on what I had available. If I'm commanding an SD(P) I'm going to use an Apollo Pod to take out any LACs that get it the way, 'cause that's what I've got in the magazines.

If I'm commanding anything other than a Katana or other new-style LAC loaded with Vipers, I'm going to use whatever happens to be loaded in the magazines.


Every modern Manty ships that is able to fire newest generation countermissiles can be armed with vipers, so the question is if the fire from the main batteries is needed. But I'd rather err on the side of caution and expend more expensive missiles than end up with a swarm of energy-heavy LAC's at minimum range.
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:55 am

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Whitecold wrote:Every modern Manty ships that is able to fire newest generation countermissiles can be armed with vipers, so the question is ...


Actually, the question would be, "are they making use of that ability?"

Vipers are expensive. Using them as counter missiles as well as anti-LAC missiles make sense for Katanas because of limited magazine space. It doesn't make as much sense for larger warships with more magazine space for conventional anti-ship missiles so they don't need the expense of dual-use CMs
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Whitecold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:20 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:Actually, the question would be, "are they making use of that ability?"

Vipers are expensive. Using them as counter missiles as well as anti-LAC missiles make sense for Katanas because of limited magazine space. It doesn't make as much sense for larger warships with more magazine space for conventional anti-ship missiles so they don't need the expense of dual-use CMs


On one of the raids Haven discovered this to their dismay that the Manties could launch Vipers without Katanas, so they made use of that.
More magazine space also means you can embark both types of missiles. How much would depend on expected opposition as well as magazine size.
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:42 pm

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Whitecold wrote:On one of the raids Haven discovered this to their dismay that the Manties could launch Vipers without Katanas, so they made use of that.


Any chance of you pointing me at that reference? I can't find any reference to "Vipers" that isn't about snakes or Katanas.
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Duckk   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:49 pm

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It's in the aftermath of the second Cutworm raids. Chapter 29 of AAC:

Of the four star systems Harrington had hit this time around, only Chantilly had mounted any effective resistance. Not for want of trying, he reminded himself grimly. Rear Admiral Bressand had done his best in Augusta, but he'd been totally outclassed and outgunned . . . and not as cunning as Jennifer Bellefeuille. Harrington's pod-layers had reduced his hyper-capable combatants to scrap metal in return for minor, if any, damage. And when his LACs had closed with suicidal gallantry, they had discovered that the Manties' counter-missile tubes, at least aboard their newer construction, were perfectly capable of launching the "dogfighting" missiles they'd developed for their damned Katanas.
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Weird Harold   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 2:52 pm

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Duckk wrote:It's in the aftermath of the second Cutworm raids. Chapter 29 of AAC:


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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by Jonathan_S   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 3:17 pm

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Weird Harold wrote:
Duckk wrote:It's in the aftermath of the second Cutworm raids. Chapter 29 of AAC:


Thanks.
Glad Duckk found and posted it.
I've tripped up trying to locate that reference before, since it doesn't actually use the word "Viper". (Which makes sense in context, but does complicate a keyword search :D )
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Re: LAC Shipkiller missile range?
Post by lyonheart   » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:22 pm

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Hi WLBjork,

One of the jobs of a Roland has as a screening element is to kill LAC's with its Mk-16's, be they 15 or 40 megaton warheads.

I suspect a Mk-16 is cheaper than a viper, or even a Mk-31 CM.

It can also kill them with its broadside lasers, which are too small to hurt much else.

That's what a destroyer is for after all.

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WLBjork wrote:Well, if you want to use a Mk16G to take out a LAC, be my guest.

Personally, I'd rather shoot it with a less resource intense Viper myself...
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