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Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Lonny   » Sun Mar 27, 2022 4:39 pm

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In "Queen's Gambit" King Roger is assassinated with a sabotaged grav ski. In "Promised Land" Lieutenant Dunsinane, Prince Michael's midshipman training officer refers to his death as a 'freak jet-ski accident'.

I find it hard to believe that this has not been mentioned in the forums. "Promised Land" was 19 years ago.

I did search the forum to see if it had been mentioned but I could not find anything.

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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Theemile   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:11 am

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Lonny wrote:In "Queen's Gambit" King Roger is assassinated with a sabotaged grav ski. In "Promised Land" Lieutenant Dunsinane, Prince Michael's midshipman training officer refers to his death as a 'freak jet-ski accident'.

I find it hard to believe that this has not been mentioned in the forums. "Promised Land" was 19 years ago.

I did search the forum to see if it had been mentioned but I could not find anything.

Lonny


Hey Lonnie, welcome to the forum. The accident was definitely involving a "Grav" ski, not a "Jet" ski. I've been here, and on Baen's bar before this forum, for ~20 years, and I don't remember the mis-naming, nor any mention of it. Good catch.

In universe, a good reason might be the security over the incident. Many details were hidden, or covered up, because the RMN was not ready to go to war with Haven, and the opposition parties still had enough strength to squash war cries. Multiple stories might have been released by multiple venues (despite the Official announcement) to muddy the waters and make it so no one really knew the facts.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by isaac_newton   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 9:55 am

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Lonny wrote:In "Queen's Gambit" King Roger is assassinated with a sabotaged grav ski. In "Promised Land" Lieutenant Dunsinane, Prince Michael's midshipman training officer refers to his death as a 'freak jet-ski accident'.

I find it hard to believe that this has not been mentioned in the forums. "Promised Land" was 19 years ago.

I did search the forum to see if it had been mentioned but I could not find anything.

Lonny


what actually is the difference?
maybe just a name rather then anything substantial
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Theemile   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:06 am

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isaac_newton wrote:
Lonny wrote:In "Queen's Gambit" King Roger is assassinated with a sabotaged grav ski. In "Promised Land" Lieutenant Dunsinane, Prince Michael's midshipman training officer refers to his death as a 'freak jet-ski accident'.

I find it hard to believe that this has not been mentioned in the forums. "Promised Land" was 19 years ago.

I did search the forum to see if it had been mentioned but I could not find anything.

Lonny


what actually is the difference?
maybe just a name rather then anything substantial


While in a parlance they could mean the same (Who knows with 2000 years of language drift) - "jet" usually means compressing and accelerating a medium as a method of propulsion.

The grav ski was described as something analogous with Marty McFLy's hoverboard - with more power. There were no "jets" to move air as a means of propulsion, just countergrav devices.

A Jet ski is currently a small waterborn craft with one seat and a water turbine propelling it, similiar in shape and function to a waterborn version of a snowmobile or motorcycle, sometimes with a guidable ski at the front for steering.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Shannon_Foraker   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 10:07 am

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I also noticed some typos in At All Costs, with the last name of someone who started with a Y, and at least a few more.
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by cthia   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 12:13 pm

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Shannon_Foraker wrote:I also noticed some typos in At All Costs, with the last name of someone who started with a Y, and at least a few more.

Eloise's last name is spelled both Pritchart and Pritchard. Meghan's last name is spelled both Petersen and Peterson.

Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Theemile   » Mon Mar 28, 2022 2:54 pm

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cthia wrote:
Shannon_Foraker wrote:I also noticed some typos in At All Costs, with the last name of someone who started with a Y, and at least a few more.

Eloise's last name is spelled both Pritchart and Pritchard. Meghan's last name is spelled both Petersen and Peterson.


Many of the last dozen or so books never went through the final proofreading stages - many were turned in after they were due and went right to the typesetters. David and Eric have been sick and had family issues get in the way - as well as the normal issues of overlapping books runnng over - heck David even had a Doctor tell him to take 6 months off due to stress.

So yes, there have been a few such issues. David even forgot about the first 3 SDs Manticore built when writing the story at the beginning of HoS until we reminded him. There have been both 11 and 12 Thorston' BBs and Ad Astra DNs (HoS has both pegged at 11 completed). So you will find many little problems, especially with the later books.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Loren Pechtel   » Tue Mar 29, 2022 9:32 pm

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Theemile wrote:
isaac_newton wrote:what actually is the difference?
maybe just a name rather then anything substantial


While in a parlance they could mean the same (Who knows with 2000 years of language drift) - "jet" usually means compressing and accelerating a medium as a method of propulsion.


You could have a device that used a focused gravity field as a means of accelerating a jet of water. It would be much less likely to be damaged by ingesting something in the water and if it did ingest something there's no propeller to explode.
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Re: Am I the only one who noticed this
Post by Theemile   » Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:29 am

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Loren Pechtel wrote:
You could have a device that used a focused gravity field as a means of accelerating a jet of water. It would be much less likely to be damaged by ingesting something in the water and if it did ingest something there's no propeller to explode.


True, but in this case the device floated on air, water wasn't the medium used. The device actually read as a snow board shape with a "back to the future" hover board tech in it.
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RFC said "refitting a Beowulfan SD to Manticoran standards would be just as difficult as refitting a standard SLN SD to those standards. In other words, it would be cheaper and faster to build new ships."
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