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by Robert_A_Woodward » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:17 am | |
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I deliberately skipped "beautiful friendship" because it is well known. The following are presented in their order in the book:
1) “May you live in interesting times” This appears in the very first scene. We know this as a “Chinese curse”, but it doesn’t appear to be one. Austen Chamberlain (brother of Neville) claimed it was a Chinese curse in a speech he made in 1936 (he cited a British diplomat who had served in China as a source), but an extensive search of Chinese literature has failed to find it. 2) “quantity has a quality all its own” This appears at the start of the Prime-Ajay Hyper Bridge sequence. This statement is usually attributed to Joseph Stalin, but the oldest occurrences found for it are from the 1970s. On the other hand, various statements known to have been made by Stalin indicate that he would have agreed with it. 3) “A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic” This appears in the first scene set on Darius (August 1922PD). This quote is also usually attributed to Joseph Stalin, but there is no conclusive evidence that he ever said it. At least one version of this appeared in the 18th Century. 4) “when a man knows he’s going to be hanged in a week, it tends to concentrate his thinking” This appears in the Hypatia sequence, immediately after the arrival of the SLN taskforce. This is attributed to a Honorverse historical figure, but it is actually a variation of a Samuel Johnson (as recorded by James Boswell) quote: “When a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully”. ----------------------------
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by tlb » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:59 am | |
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I have talked about this one before (near the bottom of the page): viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5723&start=4340 His father had used the same figure of speech in 1898, but without claiming that it was either Chinese or a curse:
The closest Chinese saying that people can find was reported in 1836 by a British diplomat named John Francis Davis, who published “The Chinese: A General Description of the Empire of China and Its Inhabitants” which included this adage:
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by tlb » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:33 am | |
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This is what I found and why various Marxist authors are credited with the quote. From Quora, Nils Barth, Updated Sep 11, 2015, originally answered: Who said, "Quantity has a quality all its own?"
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by Robert_A_Woodward » Sat Jul 18, 2020 1:23 am | |
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Upon rereading, I found one more (immediately before combat started in the Hypatia sequence): 5)"make omelettes without cracking a few eggs" This is a variation of a statement sometimes attributed to Robespierre or Napoleon, but has an earlier origin (early 18th century French writer). ----------------------------
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by cthia » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:17 pm | |
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"Perfect is the mortal enemy of good enough."
Shannon is so sweet. Ok roseandheather, I get it. Son, your mother says I have to hang you. Personally I don't think this is a capital offense. But if I don't hang you, she's gonna hang me and frankly, I'm not the one in trouble. —cthia's father. Incident in ? Axiom of Common Sense |
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