Is there a map containing the Refuge System and Sanctuary?

sonex wrote:I've looked thru all the online maps and didn't find any thing with Calvin's star, or Refuge System or planet Sanctuary. I have a copy of the Dark Fall Saga, but would like to see a map locating the area.

Thanks for any help.
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JohnRoth wrote:

sonex wrote:I've looked thru all the online maps and didn't find any thing with Calvin's star, or Refuge System or planet Sanctuary. I have a copy of the Dark Fall Saga, but would like to see a map locating the area.

Thanks for any help.
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No, there isn't. That's the single biggest issue I have with UH - no new map.

In any case, RFC has moved it at least once, between the first draft of Dark Fall and the final version.

We do know a bit about where it is, though. For example, one end of the bridge is 72 ly from Haven, in the opposite direction from Trevor's Star. The other end is 653.17 ly away, 200 ly from Earth and 150 ly from Beowulf. That puts it more or less on the line between Beowulf and Manticore, out in the Fringe.

It's also 50 ly from Bryant, and a bit farther from Connestoga and Yasotaro, none of which appear on any maps, either.

Theemile wrote:it's also supposed to be 100-200 light years from anything else - which doesn't make sense unless it's way above or below the galactic ecliptic.

The nearest inhabited star system, Bryant, was little more than fifty light years from Calvin. It also had absolutely nothing to offer the People’s Republic in trade. The same was pretty much true of Conestoga and Yasotaro—the latter a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Office of Frontier Security—the next two closest star systems. And there weren’t any other candidates for human settlement in the vicinity. While KCR-126-04 might be only two hundred light-years from the Sol System, J-156-18(L) was most inconveniently placed from a lot of perspectives. Astronomers had given the area a close look long ago, but with universally negative results. Many of the stars and its vicinity were in complex multi-star systems, where planetary orbits were unlikely to be stable long enough for complex life to evolve on their surfaces even if they happened to be in a liquid water zone. There were several singletons or extremely distant components of multiple-star systems, but most of them were cool red dwarfs or orange dwarfs edging towards the bottom of their classification. Most of their planetary satellites were either tide-locked to them or frozen over. None of them had showed the spectrographs the presence of oxygen-nitrogen atmospheres, at any rate.

Theemile wrote:it's also supposed to be 100-200 light years from anything else - which doesn't make sense unless it's way above or below the galactic ecliptic.

Galactic Sapper wrote:It's about 50 light years from anything else habitable.

The nearest inhabited star system, Bryant, was little more than fifty light years from Calvin. It also had absolutely nothing to offer the People’s Republic in trade. The same was pretty much true of Conestoga and Yasotaro—the latter a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Office of Frontier Security—the next two closest star systems. And there weren’t any other candidates for human settlement in the vicinity. While KCR-126-04 might be only two hundred light-years from the Sol System, J-156-18(L) was most inconveniently placed from a lot of perspectives. Astronomers had given the area a close look long ago, but with universally negative results. Many of the stars and its vicinity were in complex multi-star systems, where planetary orbits were unlikely to be stable long enough for complex life to evolve on their surfaces even if they happened to be in a liquid water zone. There were several singletons or extremely distant components of multiple-star systems, but most of them were cool red dwarfs or orange dwarfs edging towards the bottom of their classification. Most of their planetary satellites were either tide-locked to them or frozen over. None of them had showed the spectrographs the presence of oxygen-nitrogen atmospheres, at any rate.

Regrettably, they’d soon realized it wasn’t, really. Asgerd might be only 170 LY away, but that was still a 58-day voyage for a merchant vessel, and that was the closest inhabited system.