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Hope & Aspirations for the Finale

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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by ldwechsler   » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:35 pm

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SYED wrote:If Felix and the twins get discovered, it could mean it takes time for Darius to be discovered.


The amount of time it will take is directly tied to whether or not David wants to do that new arc and when.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by TangoLima   » Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:22 pm

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Honor and Shannon meet again.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by pappilon   » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:08 pm

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Dauntless wrote:providing Helen & Paul end up in different departments their relationship would likely be ignored, as i recall they are too junior to truly specialise, though Helen wants command so will probably spend a lot of time in tactical slots. Paulo showed much promise for EW and while that has almost become a separate department I believe it is still technically part of the tactical section. so yes possibly an issue there in the future.

as to Hamish and Honor:

1 Hamish is now technically a civilian so not bound by military regs regarding relationships.

2 I'm not clear if the regs apply to married couples.


IIRC, the EWO serves directly under the TO.

Not sure about married couples. I don't think they would be posted to the same ship. And in shoreside posts it would give the illusion of favoritism, unless they are of the same rank.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by pappilon   » Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:13 pm

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Fox2! wrote:
Vince wrote:IIRC, She Who Must Be Obeyed in Greenville has told David that if Honor dies, Nimitz does so as well.*

* In the past, not sure if anything has changed regarding Nimitz and Honor.


Didn't RFC also say at one time that he was warned that if he killed Honor/Nimitz, that he had best be prepared to become very familiar with the couch?


Nimitz is mated to Samantha. That gives him a reason to not follow Honor into oblivion. Thank Gawd for the deus ex machina. (whew). I'd like to see Samantha establish the first Treecat embassy on Grayson. (The second would be on Haven). And I'd dearly like Shannon to be adopted. I mean heck Firebrand got adopted ...
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by ldwechsler   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:44 am

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pappilon wrote:
Dauntless wrote:providing Helen & Paul end up in different departments their relationship would likely be ignored, as i recall they are too junior to truly specialise, though Helen wants command so will probably spend a lot of time in tactical slots. Paulo showed much promise for EW and while that has almost become a separate department I believe it is still technically part of the tactical section. so yes possibly an issue there in the future.

as to Hamish and Honor:

1 Hamish is now technically a civilian so not bound by military regs regarding relationships.

2 I'm not clear if the regs apply to married couples.


IIRC, the EWO serves directly under the TO.

Not sure about married couples. I don't think they would be posted to the same ship. And in shoreside posts it would give the illusion of favoritism, unless they are of the same rank.


There is undoubtedly a regulation about all of this. It is likely that a real lot of people in the navy are married to other navy people. After all, when you are out in ships for months, these are the only folks you meet.

I don't know what facilities are on ships for dealing with this. RFC has not covered it but we know that in the US navy there are a lot of onboard hookups. Biology trumps all.

And there is no way that officers could guarantee that they were always at the same rank. If Commander A gets a promotion before her husband, Officer B, does that suspend the marriage until and unless he gets a promotion? Nonsense.

It is likely Helen gets promoted before Paolo. She is a tac officer and is now a flag lieutenant even though she works for a commodore and is an ensign. Terekhov should be promoted soon and she will probably move up as well. Paolo will probably also get promoted soon but perhaps not as fast.

In the long run, short of death, they will be together. If we ever get a book in a new arc I would expect them to be senior officers.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by pappilon   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:53 pm

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ldwechsler wrote:
There is undoubtedly a regulation about all of this. It is likely that a real lot of people in the navy are married to other navy people. After all, when you are out in ships for months, these are the only folks you meet.

I don't know what facilities are on ships for dealing with this. RFC has not covered it but we know that in the US navy there are a lot of onboard hookups. Biology trumps all.

And there is no way that officers could guarantee that they were always at the same rank. If Commander A gets a promotion before her husband, Officer B, does that suspend the marriage until and unless he gets a promotion? Nonsense.

It is likely Helen gets promoted before Paolo. She is a tac officer and is now a flag lieutenant even though she works for a commodore and is an ensign. Terekhov should be promoted soon and she will probably move up as well. Paolo will probably also get promoted soon but perhaps not as fast.

In the long run, short of death, they will be together. If we ever get a book in a new arc I would expect them to be senior officers.


No it does not annul the marriage, it meely makes them serving in the same duty station in the same chain of command in a non combat assignment ...awkward for those serving with them. it is, after all, the illusion of favoritism that is a morale killer.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by saber964   » Sat Mar 24, 2018 8:04 pm

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pappilon wrote:
ldwechsler wrote:
There is undoubtedly a regulation about all of this. It is likely that a real lot of people in the navy are married to other navy people. After all, when you are out in ships for months, these are the only folks you meet.

I don't know what facilities are on ships for dealing with this. RFC has not covered it but we know that in the US navy there are a lot of onboard hookups. Biology trumps all.

And there is no way that officers could guarantee that they were always at the same rank. If Commander A gets a promotion before her husband, Officer B, does that suspend the marriage until and unless he gets a promotion? Nonsense.

It is likely Helen gets promoted before Paolo. She is a tac officer and is now a flag lieutenant even though she works for a commodore and is an ensign. Terekhov should be promoted soon and she will probably move up as well. Paolo will probably also get promoted soon but perhaps not as fast.

In the long run, short of death, they will be together. If we ever get a book in a new arc I would expect them to be senior officers.


No it does not annul the marriage, it meely makes them serving in the same duty station in the same chain of command in a non combat assignment ...awkward for those serving with them. it is, after all, the illusion of favoritism that is a morale killer.



Currently what the U.S. Military dose is ship and shore. Basically one spouse is assigned to a ship home ported at the same station the other spouse is assigned to. Or they assign both to different parts of the same base. In the Army one spouse would be assigned to the 212 FAB and the other to the 211 FAB both FAB being assigned to Ft. Still OK.
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Re: Hope & Aspirations for the Finale
Post by ldwechsler   » Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:44 am

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saber964 wrote:
pappilon wrote:
There is undoubtedly a regulation about all of this. It is likely that a real lot of people in the navy are married to other navy people. After all, when you are out in ships for months, these are the only folks you meet.

I don't know what facilities are on ships for dealing with this. RFC has not covered it but we know that in the US navy there are a lot of onboard hookups. Biology trumps all.

And there is no way that officers could guarantee that they were always at the same rank. If Commander A gets a promotion before her husband, Officer B, does that suspend the marriage until and unless he gets a promotion? Nonsense.

It is likely Helen gets promoted before Paolo. She is a tac officer and is now a flag lieutenant even though she works for a commodore and is an ensign. Terekhov should be promoted soon and she will probably move up as well. Paolo will probably also get promoted soon but perhaps not as fast.

In the long run, short of death, they will be together. If we ever get a book in a new arc I would expect them to be senior officers.


No it does not annul the marriage, it meely makes them serving in the same duty station in the same chain of command in a non combat assignment ...awkward for those serving with them. it is, after all, the illusion of favoritism that is a morale killer.



Currently what the U.S. Military dose is ship and shore. Basically one spouse is assigned to a ship home ported at the same station the other spouse is assigned to. Or they assign both to different parts of the same base. In the Army one spouse would be assigned to the 212 FAB and the other to the 211 FAB both FAB being assigned to Ft. Still OK.[/quote]

I would guess this would be the case on Manticore particularly if there are young children.

And probably they would not have married couples on board the same ship. I doubt there are accommodations for married people.
That would keep almost all out of the same chain of command.

Remember that with prolong marriages could last quite a long time which makes separation somewhat easier. Of course, peace would simplify a lot of things.
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