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Re: League Survival
Post by kzt   » Sun May 15, 2016 1:13 am

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David has mentioned, more than once, that most of the SL has no SDF. Those that do are mostly only light units, like CA on down. They are something well less than 100 of the 1700 (iirc) SL members that have one or more SDs.

So basically, FF can show up with a single BC squadron to about 2/3rds of the SL and suggest they might want to rethink their plans and that system can't do squat about it.
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Re: League Survival
Post by darrell   » Sun May 15, 2016 1:26 am

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kzt wrote:David has mentioned, more than once, that most of the SL has no SDF. Those that do are mostly only light units, like CA on down. They are something well less than 100 of the 1700 (iirc) SL members that have one or more SDs.

So basically, FF can show up with a single BC squadron to about 2/3rds of the SL and suggest they might want to rethink their plans and that system can't do squat about it.


IIRC RFC has said that over half of the SL SDF's contain only LAC's for system anti-piracy and customs duties.

if we follow a half power curve that is
1,000 with only LAC's

400 with at most a squadron of hyper units, max size CL's.

200 with at most a squadron of CA's or BC's. They probably have a squadron or two of CL's and DD's as well.

60-80 with less than a squadron of the wall, not counting lighter units.

20-40 like beowulf, with more than a squadron of the wall.
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Re: League Survival
Post by Kytheros   » Sun May 15, 2016 1:59 am

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kzt wrote:David has mentioned, more than once, that most of the SL has no SDF. Those that do are mostly only light units, like CA on down. They are something well less than 100 of the 1700 (iirc) SL members that have one or more SDs.

So basically, FF can show up with a single BC squadron to about 2/3rds of the SL and suggest they might want to rethink their plans and that system can't do squat about it.

While that's entirely true, I'm also saying that those most likely to secede in the initial waves are those systems with more than just a token SDF, and will require a more substantial investment in force to keep in.

Plus, Frontier Fleet is also going to be stretched and possibly overextended because they're supplying the ships for the League's planned commerce raiding operations against the Grand Alliance, and maintaining the League and OFS's hold over the Protectorates - the MAlign's been setting up sectors to attempt to/successfully secede/rebel and other places to revolt and just get stomped on.


I'm not arguing that any one system can't be forced back in, but I'm suggesting that there are going to be a lot more places trying to leave and/or that will be causing problems than the League can free up the forces to deal with simultaneously. Take an OFS sector that the MAlign's set up to successfully break away - that's basically the entire FF detachment assigned to the sector gone, which means retaking the sector will require probably substantially more force than was assigned, and will mean taking losses.
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