wastedfly wrote:kzt wrote:What 1st world nations have absolutely no ship building industry and a sea coast?. Please name one that hasn't built a ship larger than 150 tons in the last 5 years.
Oh how droll. Nice placement. 150 tons. A tug boat? A freaking car ferry is your standard? A very small car ferry at that?
Common man. Drop the straw man routine. Set reality at a minimum of 10,000 tons. 1000 tons at a minimum!
Well, the UK doesn't build anything. They are are a 1st rate nation. Last 5 years they built a couple car feeries, a singular nuclear submarine, and a couple of destroyers. Last I checked they had a nice LONG coast line.
Could they build transports? No. No iron ore. No coal. No iron smelters capable of producing the quantity of steel required. Do they have the yards for modern sized ships? No. They have a couple naval yards and zilch else.
Does France build anything? No.
Does the USA build anything? No. Do we have the infrastructure to build any transports? No. Well maybe if one converts some of the oil platform building sites in Texas. Most of these buggers are bought elsewhere and towed in. I suppose you could go the retentive anal route and state we could convert all naval yards to civilian buildinng purposes.
Does Germany build anything? No
Does Greece build anything? No
Does Holland build anything? No
Do all of these nations have large merchant marines? Yes.
None of them have built a single freighter in 30 years. Any building yards/iron works/slips they do have are for SMALL freighters that are obsolescent along with the machinery for building said freighters.
So, sure, they could slowly, build some small, obsolete, inefficient ships. Or they could build completely new yards, machinery, dry docks that actually fit a modern world, and create/copy a modern design and eventually build a competent freighter.
This isn't 1940 kzt. A smidgeon of reality eh?
Prevents accidents that coudl cause major problems (albeit orders of magnitude bigger in the honorverse.....)
